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this is david marlar ufo researcher and

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so i've been working with martin in

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denmark he's for danish uapr

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and he's basically putting together a

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system um

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with flir and prototyping it

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uh so

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the idea there's there's there is a

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couple ideas but the main idea is to

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fund whatever project we do with nfts

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and so that's why uh dan i was i was

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excited to see you have uh nfts you've

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you've made a few that one is sweet too

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with lou elzondo i like that thank you

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come on

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i think there's a huge opportunity um

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huge and so a lot of people just don't

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understand nfts

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and i think it would be an easy way to

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crowdfund so the idea is to basically

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i'd like to send a satellite

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into space so basically modify a skyhub

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system you know uh basically it's like

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right now it's a telescoping i'm sorry

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fisheye lens that that is going to point

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out something anomalous uh and then it

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has a telescoping camera and so you

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could do optical and flir next to each

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other and if you separate them by like a

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meter uh you can get stereo vision so

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like those multiple points i talked

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about um you can get that so the idea is

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these cubesats like already made for

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send it up and somehow make it so it can

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uh direct to the internet just

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video you know like nothing in between

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like hardwired no one can interfere with

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it you know just like direct to the

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internet

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post this thing um and actually the way

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the system works is it could be zooming

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the idea is you would get a image or

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video potentially of like a fleet of

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spacecraft entering earth right if it's

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real

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or you could use it to maybe go over

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skidmark or ranch right maybe they want

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you know maybe they want to buy some of

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the nfts to fund it

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and and i would put like the nft avatar

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like right out in front you know i want

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to like 3d print the avatar and like put

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him out in front like he's flying

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through space you know like that'd be so

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uh yeah so that's that's the basic idea

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and dan you may know so i want to make

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million dollars we're doing initial cost

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that i think it'd be like 500 000

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if we sell a thousand nfts right we mint

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1100 and then we sell a thousand uh and

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we and i would like to get some ideas

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from the community like uh what to you i

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was thinking 500 were like parts of the

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cubesat and then the other 500 would be

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cool like

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normal avatars you know there'd be like

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quality you know canadian geese we go

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through all the geese

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a lot of explosions right because

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chances are it's not going to work get

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some blurry ones in there

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and then you you sell them for

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whatever we need we say we need a

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million dollars we sell a thousand of

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them for half an eighth

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and then and then if they

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somehow fund this project you know not

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only do they get to keep the nft

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uh which hopefully will be sweet and go

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up in value or maybe build a community

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would be the idea

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um but maybe

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maybe they funded the first project that

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actually like proved you know

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spacecrafts entering the earth you know

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that enter the earth you know how cool

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would that be so

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and i like skips all the bureaucracy you

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know what i'm talking about dan like so

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i'm going to memphi we make the nfts

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right we make them it's almost free to

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uh we sell them and then the idea is it

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would only fully fund right people's

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money would only come out when it's

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fully funded

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uh but then you you sell them and it's

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random so anybody can buy it make it

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like a half an eighth so anyone can if

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you can scrape together like 1500 bucks

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or whatever you can help fund this

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project

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so crowdfund it and then there's no link

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right after that the only thing we

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guarantee is an nft like nothing else

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there's no bureaucracy there's no

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there's no we're not uh sending you any

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emails or nothing you know it's like

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we're gonna take all we can do is

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guarantee you as an nft

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uh and then we're gonna just try really

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hard to make this happen

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and it it may not right we're talking

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satellites sending stuff up everybody

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already says it's you know i can't do

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it's impossible

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that's what people say about all the

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cool this stuff in history though you

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gotta do it awesome anyway man just to

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make that to make the nft project and to

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bring it together i think we can fund it

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easily you know i mean my my crypto punk

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dance is ridiculously probably it's like

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a hundred eighth you know

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so if it gets to like if maybe i'll just

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sell my crypto punk i was thinking just

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sell it for for a little bit more than

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what we need

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and then just send in that one into

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you know so whoever buys it he else he

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gets it he gets a crypto punk and we'll

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put it into space right and then you put

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that's the idea um there's a lot of

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uh but i have some some pretty good

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my cousin designed the mars orbiter i

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need to get him on board wow uh and then

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my other cousin he where he's written ai

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before uh martin's done a lot of this

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yeah he sounds very um experienced um so

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he hasn't actually agreed yet but he's

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uh my kind of my personal hero he was an

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f-16 pilot back in aviano with me and in

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so i think he's agreed as well he lives

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in texas so that's that's our link to

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houston uh and talking to musk so the

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idea is we get this thing up right and

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then we just build a prototype and then

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we go to elon musk and we're like hey

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man you're testing these star you're

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testing the starship

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they'll be doing their orbital test next

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year and so they'll

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hopefully need some test

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payloads right and so we just say hey

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man will you take this for free

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you know or well uh we'll send you some

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nfts or something uh

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neat way to potentially get all this on

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one nft would be making exclusive

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brandon fugal nft for one million

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and yeah just market it to one mr fugal

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himself and see if he wants to buy his

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own skin walker nft

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yeah before anyone

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the goal will be just video skinwalker

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you know and then but at the same time

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uaps and so you know i've been watching

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kevin canuse videos

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uh i lose video on your channel was

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awesome andy from last week man that was

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that was stupendous

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so super low it's like thousands of

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was like thousands of kilometers okay

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that's pretty long you know that's like

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that state level for sure you know

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low hertz super low frequency and then

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elf i'd never heard of it extremely long

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with kevin knuth he was on the theories

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of everything that's a very very

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brought up this 12 hertz thing that's

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there's some alpha channel in our brain

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but there's some frequency of our brain

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uh that's at 12 hertz if you use an emf

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uh program all this stuff

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um so so very interesting which could be

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the the longer waves um that we're

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infrared inter inferometer

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uh and then if one line of the laser go

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is is being impacted by gravity waves

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then it you basically impact the signal

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right so you can tell if gravity waves

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uh which reminded me of like from the

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ghostbusters you know that spinning

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peaky emitter i was like holy man

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we need pk meters or what like this is

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what we actually need

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uh

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yeah i don't know he wasn't laughing

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though lou i guess i hate to laugh you

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know i guess i'm so new like i i'm like

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the rookie you know a combat you know i

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haven't been shot at yet or hit or

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anything

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um so i guess i i don't mean to laugh uh

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about these things obviously it seems

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very serious um yeah and let's maybe

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maybe get in touch with lou and tell

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them what you're telling what your guess

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is i think at this point everyone's

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having a go at it and it's a little bit

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like you know when it's like a name the

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baby or

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a competition at a fair and everyone's

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going yeah i think it's this and i think

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it's this that's yes that's not amazing

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what do you think

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i i think

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what i think doesn't really matter too

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much

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i

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yeah that's one way

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but there's a simpler and more

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cost-effective way

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and he says like when you hit your head

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you're like yeah of course

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um i think it's just a compass

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i bet you have like it's you know

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because you look at these when they show

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up i bet there's some serious

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gravitational waves it's obviously

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related to magnetism and electric you

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know the electromagnetic

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interactions that we don't fully

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understand

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so i bet when they like appear or when

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they're doing something crazy and all

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these gamma bursts are going off i

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wouldn't be surprised if it's just

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screwing up the whole magnetic field

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there and if you just had like a 3d

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compass like a digital compass it could

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just

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point the satellite oh yeah this is what

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i'm hoping right so i mean i

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i don't know i think we should be

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sharing information um hopefully they

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tell me

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what it is you know i don't mind if they

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get it first like that's fine but

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uh i think he will i think i think

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they'll share it you know it's just

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scary sharing information somebody in

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the group is always like no way we can't

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do it you know so i just don't talk to

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the group

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and then uh everything works out fine

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you know so

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uh well listen you're talking about uh

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crazy ass theories and i use that

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language because on your own channel

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chris

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yeah in your most recent uh video uh you

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called uh chris's crazy ass theory on

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pretty much life dark matter and the

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universe now if people want to see this

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in detail and i think you need to watch

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the video to get the full impact and

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effect of it absolutely be searching

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chris leto's channel on youtube it's

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chris l-e-h-t-o the links are in the

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description for this podcast as well go

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and watch that and then watch his other

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videos too on the gimbal go fast and all

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that kind of stuff but do you want to

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tell us chris about your your most

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recent video that you said has been kind

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of it's been brewing for a long long

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time

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yeah i mean um

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i was very happy

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just to

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really gotten it off my chest to be

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honest uh you know i

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that was the driving force i think for

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for getting out there i couldn't tell

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how to there was something i felt like i

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had

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something there's i don't know you know

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i guess in my theory i talk about uh

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you know what is how do we communicate

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at our level and i think it's through

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thought you know we do it through words

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words now but you know with neural link

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surely we'll get to we'll just get to

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direct

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thought um

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uh in the future so

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yeah that it really just uh made it so

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it for whatever reason i was able to put

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all the pieces together at this point

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and

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release that video i just felt

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lucky essentially and just happy to get

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it out you know like before i published

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and and it was like processing it or

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anything i like kept thinking i would

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die you know like i like something was

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gonna happen you know like i was driving

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somewhere but but it hadn't published

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i don't know that you get like these

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crazy thoughts but it

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uh i'm just feel very grateful i guess

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i'm grateful for youtube and

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able to put it out i'm so happy with it

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so i i love the idea and

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this won't ruin it because i'm going to

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explain it really badly but you

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basically talk through the how

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galileo when he looked at his telescope

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so out into the universe but then it was

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turned around and you look through a

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telescope the other way it's like a

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microscope and you look down and

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essentially life exists on these

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different levels depending on size and

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again i'm not

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mathematical or you know i don't use

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massive words yeah podcast guy that's

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you know why i do this um and you go

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from like these different structures

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like subatomic atomic then like

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organisms little microbes and then it

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goes up and then you get to the point

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where you're like human

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and that's where we are which is stating

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the obvious i think you see that as well

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it made me think of a few things one was

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the cartoon show the magic school bus

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where basically all the school kids

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would get shrunk in a magic school bus

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and go inside the human body every week

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yeah and they would go they would go

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round and you would get to meet cells

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and organisms and all that kind of stuff

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and if you've seen the magic school bus

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they go in and the body is like a living

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thing

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the outside which is us and then what

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you're suggesting chris is that if you

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take those up levels where you go

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buildings is next but buildings aren't

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living as far as we know you then take

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it to planetary you go into solar

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systems and then if you if you know your

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astrology um astronomy sorry it's not

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astrology astronomy you go through your

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levels of clusters superclusters

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galaxies universe universities and are

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these just all like a russian doll of

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life where every time you take off a

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level or add on a level it's just life

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upon life upon life the other one it

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made me think of because magic school

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bus is going down the way was the end of

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the first men in black movie yes if you

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remember when the camera pans out and it

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shows you our planet the galaxy the

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universe and it turns out we're just a

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marble inside you know we're just a

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galaxy inside the marble that a couple

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of aliens are playing with on another

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planet and it's just how things just

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keep going out and out and out have i

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explained that in any way

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sensibly yeah it's pretty much right on

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um

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yeah the the the big part is though that

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the life continues up it doesn't yeah

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like you mentioned that the key is it

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doesn't it doesn't stop at our level

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that's that's

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exactly what you said yes

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and that's something that many people

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talk about how the universe potentially

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is as a living thing um and like when

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you look at like neurons

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in your brain when they fire and how

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much they look like these vast

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structures out in the universe or if you

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look at an iris or an eyeball you know

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when you zoom in it looks like you know

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like galaxies and all that kind of stuff

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as well and it might just be that

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poetry of life that that's the way these

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things look and resemble each other but

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i do think you're sort of onto something

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with that to be honest

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amazing yeah i'm happy that uh

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you and like so many other people have

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written me and just said it's uh they

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really agree with it you know because i

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you put that out there and you you just

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kind of obviously i was nervous about it

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um

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you know it's a it's a wildly different

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theory but

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like you said it just made

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it makes sense to me it's it it seems

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like something we can actually see and

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test you know which i just see with this

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the dark matter stuff they're just going

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kind of crazy you know they basically

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they're building this giant container of

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of heavy water under under the ground

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you know i don't even know how many

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thousands of gallons it has but heavy

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water is radioactive you know water

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essentially and it's to try and catch

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these ghost neutrinos

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that they're looking for and somehow

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this will this will solve the dark

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matter

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uh mystery essentially you know because

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it's not really matter right it's a

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they call it dark matter but that's

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really the

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overarching

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uh name for the phenomenon that they're

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observing

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that there's too much mass essentially

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that we can't see basically there's all

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this mass out there that is invisible to

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us

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and the problem is they're saying that

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it'll it'll it'll always be or could

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always be invisible to us you know which

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is just crazy and instead they're

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looking smaller you know they're trying

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to go down to neutrino level which i

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guess would give you some

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you know it can give you some

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information about about the higher

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dimensions but you're just assuming that

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the dimension you know the information

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you're getting from

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from very small is

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is correlating kind of directly to the

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higher dimensions you know

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which and that was the biggest thing is

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yeah

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you used the word label there and i

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think that's right and i think that's a

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massive part of the problem we have in

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in any aspect of if you want to label it

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all as paranormal or phenomenon as we we

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put that human perspective on things and

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ghosts angels demons whatever they might

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be called could all be one in the same

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sort of phenomenon but they get

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pigeonholed and you know through the

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decades and centuries mythology and

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folklore creates all this different

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stuff even like fairies for example i've

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had a guest talk about fairies in the

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past but

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what is a fairy if you're thinking

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tinkerbell yeah probably not however if

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you're thinking you know entity or

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sprite from some other dimension or who

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knows maybe that's maybe maybe not

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i'm a little one with that kind of stuff

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however it goes into like orbs and all

557
00:19:16,070 --> 00:19:14,559
that kind of thing as well and it's

558
00:19:18,150 --> 00:19:16,080
something dan and i have talked about

559
00:19:20,950 --> 00:19:18,160
quite frequently i do want to let dan

560
00:19:22,230 --> 00:19:20,960
give you he he had a quote um that he's

561
00:19:24,950 --> 00:19:22,240
probably going to have to read word for

562
00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:24,960
word i'm guessing then yeah i'll read it

563
00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:27,520
in a second i sent it to chris when he

564
00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:29,760
posted it because your theory i loved it

565
00:19:33,350 --> 00:19:31,679
and it immediately made me think of this

566
00:19:35,990 --> 00:19:33,360
one specific quote from from a book

567
00:19:37,190 --> 00:19:36,000
series i love but i i just want to say i

568
00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:37,200
really love the way that you're using

569
00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:39,440
the language of dimensions because

570
00:19:43,110 --> 00:19:41,039
whenever people talk about them we

571
00:19:45,029 --> 00:19:43,120
always assume that you know we're going

572
00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:45,039
through this portal into this other

573
00:19:48,710 --> 00:19:47,200
world another place and that's not

574
00:19:50,470 --> 00:19:48,720
necessarily what people mean you know

575
00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:50,480
dimensional language we could just be

576
00:19:56,230 --> 00:19:52,960
talking about shy about shadow biomes

577
00:19:58,150 --> 00:19:56,240
above and below us um instead of you

578
00:19:59,590 --> 00:19:58,160
know these complete other worlds that

579
00:20:02,070 --> 00:19:59,600
you can pop through where they have

580
00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:02,080
these crazy creatures and so on so forth

581
00:20:06,630 --> 00:20:04,880
um but the the quote they reminded me of

582
00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:06,640
was uh it goes something like this i'll

583
00:20:10,870 --> 00:20:08,799
try and not mess not to mess it up size

584
00:20:13,110 --> 00:20:10,880
defeats us for the fish the lake in

585
00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:13,120
which he lives is the universe

586
00:20:16,149 --> 00:20:14,640
what does the fish think when he is

587
00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:16,159
jerked up by the mouth through the

588
00:20:19,909 --> 00:20:18,240
silver limits of existence and into a

589
00:20:22,149 --> 00:20:19,919
new universe where the air drowns him

590
00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:22,159
and the light is blue madness where huge

591
00:20:25,990 --> 00:20:24,080
bipeds with no gills stuff into a

592
00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:26,000
suffocating box and cover it with wet

593
00:20:29,110 --> 00:20:27,360
weeds to die

594
00:20:31,110 --> 00:20:29,120
or one might take the tip of a pencil or

595
00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:31,120
magnify it one reaches the point where a

596
00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:32,960
stunning realization strikes home the

597
00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:35,200
pencil tip is not solid it's composed of

598
00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:36,799
atoms which world and revolve like a

599
00:20:41,350 --> 00:20:39,280
trillion demon planets what seems solid

600
00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:41,360
to us is actually only a loose net held

601
00:20:45,190 --> 00:20:43,200
together by gravity viewed at their

602
00:20:48,549 --> 00:20:45,200
actual size the distances between these

603
00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:48,559
atoms might become league gulfs eons

604
00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:50,320
the atoms themselves are composed of

605
00:20:54,950 --> 00:20:52,799
nuclei and revolving protons and

606
00:20:57,190 --> 00:20:54,960
electrons one may go down further to

607
00:20:59,590 --> 00:20:57,200
subatomic particles and then to what

608
00:21:01,350 --> 00:20:59,600
tachyons nothing of course not

609
00:21:03,669 --> 00:21:01,360
everything in the universe denies

610
00:21:07,029 --> 00:21:03,679
nothing to suggest an ending is the one

611
00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:08,710
yeah that's amazing i thought you know i

612
00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:11,440
thought of the the big bang

613
00:21:15,110 --> 00:21:13,520
you know the singularity

614
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:15,120
uh

615
00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:16,400
and it reminds me you know i've always

616
00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:17,520
thought of and i've always kind of

617
00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:18,880
talked trash about the big bang but

618
00:21:22,789 --> 00:21:20,720
quietly you know

619
00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:22,799
uh because it's hard and especially just

620
00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:24,400
recently it seems like people's minds

621
00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:25,919
have kind of been broken a little bit no

622
00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:27,360
you know not broken but

623
00:21:31,669 --> 00:21:29,600
uh the the dogma has been

624
00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:31,679
they're willing to think of other

625
00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:33,039
uh other

626
00:21:36,870 --> 00:21:35,200
prospects you know but the

627
00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:36,880
yeah the the thing that surprised me

628
00:21:41,029 --> 00:21:40,080
about the big bang is as i imagined like

629
00:21:42,630 --> 00:21:41,039
a little

630
00:21:44,230 --> 00:21:42,640
cell in your body and maybe this is

631
00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:44,240
where the idea came from you know but i

632
00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:46,080
imagine like a little cell in your body

633
00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:48,400
um say like on your heart

634
00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:50,400
somehow is able to manage like get

635
00:21:55,029 --> 00:21:53,120
together some material you know and then

636
00:21:57,270 --> 00:21:55,039
and then bend light like we have you

637
00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:57,280
know and they make like this lens you

638
00:22:01,430 --> 00:21:58,880
know and they have like they fashioned

639
00:22:02,950 --> 00:22:01,440
like a a cellular telescope you know

640
00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:02,960
it's kind of what i imagine

641
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:05,039
uh and then they they look out you know

642
00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:06,480
and they're like

643
00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:09,760
uh yeah i know exactly when chris lato

644
00:22:13,350 --> 00:22:11,520
was born

645
00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:13,360
you know that's basically what i what i

646
00:22:16,470 --> 00:22:15,440
hear them is telling us you know and i'm

647
00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:16,480
just like

648
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:18,240
you know what you're you're suggesting

649
00:22:22,789 --> 00:22:21,200
is ridiculous i mean honestly uh

650
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:22,799
yeah i don't know the fact that they

651
00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:24,080
could name the the beginning of the

652
00:22:26,630 --> 00:22:25,360
universe

653
00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:26,640
i don't know that's kind of maybe where

654
00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:28,240
the craziness kind of started and maybe

655
00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:30,640
they can and maybe maybe it's correct uh

656
00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:32,320
but i did that was the the the

657
00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:33,919
impression i always had

658
00:22:36,390 --> 00:22:34,960
um

659
00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:36,400
and that kind of brought that to mine

660
00:22:38,549 --> 00:22:37,200
yeah

661
00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:38,559
i tell you what chris i think you'll

662
00:22:42,070 --> 00:22:40,080
appreciate this as a father and any

663
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:42,080
parents listening where i had a bit of a

664
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:43,919
bitter sweet moment as i was watching

665
00:22:48,549 --> 00:22:45,919
that video while i was sitting with my

666
00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:48,559
18 week old little boy harry and um he

667
00:22:52,630 --> 00:22:50,960
was holding my finger with his hand

668
00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:52,640
just at the point where you said that

669
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:54,400
nothing is actually touching anything

670
00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:56,400
else because of the atoms and i just

671
00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:58,080
remember looking down at him holding my

672
00:23:00,870 --> 00:22:59,440
hand and thinking

673
00:23:02,149 --> 00:23:00,880
he's not really holding my hand does he

674
00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:02,159
like

675
00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:03,600
it was just one of those moments i was

676
00:23:07,909 --> 00:23:05,840
like ah well yeah that's that's true

677
00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:07,919
science comes along and ruins it but he

678
00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:14,149
i don't think you know knowing all these

679
00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:15,840
things doesn't neces

680
00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:17,600
it doesn't make living less real you

681
00:23:22,470 --> 00:23:19,840
know for me it makes it more

682
00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:22,480
uh more real i guess but you know i i

683
00:23:25,909 --> 00:23:24,080
treasure it more you know i kind of feel

684
00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:25,919
like the sand you know

685
00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:27,520
it's running through so i want to catch

686
00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:28,480
it you know i want to catch that

687
00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:29,679
information you know the information is

688
00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:31,280
going by we're missing it

689
00:23:35,590 --> 00:23:33,039
um chris we're going to get to listen

690
00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:35,600
our questions um in just a second i want

691
00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:37,280
to ask you one more thing before we get

692
00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:38,720
to those

693
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:41,520
being relatively new like may 31st i

694
00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:43,039
think you've given us the date there

695
00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:44,559
where you really got involved in this

696
00:23:49,350 --> 00:23:46,799
topic properly and you've dived in head

697
00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:49,360
first which is amazing um

698
00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:51,200
what what what are you most excited

699
00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:53,600
about where we are in the conversation

700
00:23:58,789 --> 00:23:56,159
at the moment

701
00:24:00,470 --> 00:23:58,799
in terms of ufos i was very excited i i

702
00:24:01,990 --> 00:24:00,480
mean i'm i'm brand new right obviously

703
00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:02,000
anna may i

704
00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:03,679
i don't know who anyone is still you

705
00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:05,600
know so so now i'm just like trying to

706
00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:08,240
study trying to uh try and study i was

707
00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:10,400
very impressed with the uap report

708
00:24:13,830 --> 00:24:12,000
actually you know the fact that they

709
00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:13,840
said those numbers

710
00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:15,679
you know because you

711
00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:17,520
you know you never say numbers because

712
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:19,120
as soon as you say a number you know how

713
00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:20,480
much money you have right as soon as you

714
00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:22,400
say that like people latch on they

715
00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:24,240
assign that number to something

716
00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:25,600
so they're very you know it had to get

717
00:24:29,029 --> 00:24:27,600
through all of those offices so someone

718
00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:29,039
just like piled that thing through you

719
00:24:31,590 --> 00:24:30,320
know because really all it takes is one

720
00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:31,600
person to say

721
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:33,600
or one of those offices to say no don't

722
00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:35,120
put in this number and now they're gonna

723
00:24:37,990 --> 00:24:36,799
have some fight you know up at the the

724
00:24:40,149 --> 00:24:38,000
higher level

725
00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:40,159
whoever's gonna whoever's gonna approve

726
00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:41,520
it

727
00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:44,000
at the final um so the fact that that

728
00:24:47,669 --> 00:24:45,200
got through is

729
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:47,679
i think seems like a new breakthrough

730
00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:49,520
you know if you look back i don't i

731
00:24:53,110 --> 00:24:51,440
don't think there's any large numbers

732
00:24:55,669 --> 00:24:53,120
saying that we have anomalous events

733
00:24:57,350 --> 00:24:55,679
since like blue book again i'm very new

734
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:57,360
you know but it seemed new to me so that

735
00:25:06,710 --> 00:24:59,360
that was very exciting um

736
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:08,310
i get to say it to you this time andy

737
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:10,880
but uh you're on mute i'm gonna i am

738
00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:19,269
yeah so listen we've had a lot of your

739
00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:20,960
time quests i was just saying and i want

740
00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:22,559
to get to these listener questions or a

741
00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:24,400
few for you and then we'll finish off on

742
00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:26,240
the quick fire round as well which i'm

743
00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:28,159
interested in because being so new to

744
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:30,080
the subject i wonder if you've got an

745
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:32,240
opinion form jet on a lot of this stuff

746
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:34,320
yeah can i finish one point though i

747
00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:36,000
guess one point dan you mentioned uh

748
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:38,159
before we get started um

749
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:41,600
is about the uh the dimensions right

750
00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:43,679
yeah yeah it's so true right even the

751
00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:45,440
words we say dimensions

752
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:48,320
um but if you think about it

753
00:25:51,669 --> 00:25:50,559
getting to a larger dimension is ex

754
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:51,679
would be

755
00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:54,240
with our current technology impossible

756
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:56,240
right or getting to a smaller smaller

757
00:26:00,549 --> 00:25:58,159
dimension we can affect it right with

758
00:26:03,590 --> 00:26:00,559
certain technological tools

759
00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:03,600
um but we can't you know transfer our

760
00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:04,880
perception

761
00:26:09,590 --> 00:26:07,360
down to like the quantum level

762
00:26:11,909 --> 00:26:09,600
for instance right so that

763
00:26:13,029 --> 00:26:11,919
that is where the the dimensions come in

764
00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:13,039
where

765
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:14,159
you would need like some sort of

766
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:17,039
technology or a portal that can actually

767
00:26:21,350 --> 00:26:19,520
take your our size or somehow and maybe

768
00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:21,360
reorient you know maybe you can re-tune

769
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:24,000
the frequency right and now you can tune

770
00:26:28,149 --> 00:26:26,480
down your size um

771
00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:28,159
and so but it it needs some sort of

772
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:30,320
portal so we you still need a

773
00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:31,919
interdimensionary

774
00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:34,240
vehicle you know to get through

775
00:26:37,750 --> 00:26:35,679
or to get extremely large you know

776
00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:37,760
imagine all of your you know whatever

777
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:40,720
you we are expanding you know into the

778
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:42,880
how would you even observe the outer

779
00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:43,919
universe

780
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:46,640
uh so it is a dimension you know it it's

781
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:48,159
just funny that we can see them you know

782
00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:49,840
i guess we're we're considering that

783
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:51,760
another dimension will be something we

784
00:26:55,029 --> 00:26:53,520
can't really see into

785
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:55,039
but the only way the only reason we can

786
00:26:58,710 --> 00:26:56,320
really see it is through this advanced

787
00:27:00,470 --> 00:26:58,720
technology um that we've had you know

788
00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:00,480
electron microscope you can't see an

789
00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:02,960
electron uh because it's smaller than

790
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:05,120
the wavelength of visible light right so

791
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:07,600
the actual you can't you can't film it

792
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:09,600
with the camera you have to use the size

793
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:11,279
of an electron

794
00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:12,720
so actually they kind of like use

795
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:14,640
braille to actually like feel the top of

796
00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:15,760
the surface

797
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:17,600
okay so there's other methods that we

798
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:20,080
use to see into that dimension but to

799
00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:21,600
actually go there

800
00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:23,919
would require a portal right but but we

801
00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:25,360
can affect it and this is what i was

802
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:26,720
kind of thinking

803
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:28,240
was maybe it's

804
00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:30,240
these are really interdimensional beings

805
00:27:33,909 --> 00:27:32,159
coming from other sizes

806
00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:33,919
right so imagine you have we have

807
00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:35,120
limitless

808
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:36,640
you know you have 70 trillion cells in

809
00:27:39,430 --> 00:27:38,000
your body

810
00:27:41,110 --> 00:27:39,440
i don't know maybe one of those turns

811
00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:41,120
into some alien civilization i don't

812
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:43,279
know uh and then they're able to get

813
00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:44,799
bigger but more than likely it's the

814
00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:46,880
other way if obviously this is just an

815
00:27:52,149 --> 00:27:50,080
idea um but from the larger

816
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:52,159
uh from the higher dimensions or larger

817
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:54,399
dimensions maybe they are like sticking

818
00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:56,480
a electron microscope in here and like

819
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:58,399
feeling the size you know maybe that's

820
00:28:02,630 --> 00:28:00,000
why we get all these weird

821
00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:02,640
quantum effects or something you know

822
00:28:06,710 --> 00:28:04,240
probably less likely but

823
00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:06,720
just a way to consider that those

824
00:28:10,630 --> 00:28:08,559
there there are dimensions

825
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:10,640
and that's how it works that sounds like

826
00:28:14,789 --> 00:28:12,080
something you should be pitching to the

827
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:14,799
rick and morty guys

828
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:16,640
i was just gonna say yeah it's the rick

829
00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:19,039
and morty car engine one right uh yeah

830
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:20,720
kind of in the engine and then they go

831
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:22,559
in another engine that was in the world

832
00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:24,240
made in that engine and it just kind of

833
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:26,240
keeps going um

834
00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:27,360
but it's probably not right it's

835
00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:29,279
probably just simple like like it has

836
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:30,559
been in the past you know we're probably

837
00:28:33,909 --> 00:28:32,320
just yeah that's what i that's what i

838
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:33,919
would think you you've completely

839
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:35,520
redefined the telescope for me now i'm

840
00:28:38,789 --> 00:28:36,640
going to be looking through it thinking

841
00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:38,799
this isn't just

842
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:40,640
glass this is a dimensional window that

843
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:42,240
i get to look through

844
00:28:45,430 --> 00:28:44,640
it's crazy too because galileo he saw

845
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:45,440
the

846
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:47,120
four moons of jupiter that was like his

847
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:49,279
big uh thing is he was the first one to

848
00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:50,080
see

849
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:52,960
um you know moon of a foreign body

850
00:28:56,630 --> 00:28:54,960
and so i was just messing around with my

851
00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:56,640
telescope you know or not until it's a

852
00:29:00,870 --> 00:28:58,799
spotting scope actually and i had it set

853
00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:00,880
up because i was like man i think that's

854
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:02,399
i think that's jupiter you know i looked

855
00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:04,960
at it back in november and i saw the

856
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:06,720
four m i saw four moons of jupiter you

857
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:08,720
know i took a picture with my iphone

858
00:29:13,990 --> 00:29:10,960
um and that was before all of this just

859
00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:14,000
uh yeah it's crazy

860
00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:16,240
it was a precursor of what was to come

861
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:18,559
um now listen dave had a question for

862
00:29:22,389 --> 00:29:20,480
you straight off the bat and again being

863
00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:22,399
new to the subject

864
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:24,080
answer it as best you can

865
00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:26,159
what is your best guess of where these

866
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:28,720
uap craft are coming from do you think

867
00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:30,880
they have any operational centers and if

868
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:32,240
so where do you think they could be

869
00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:34,399
located

870
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:36,159
yeah that's definitely yeah it's a good

871
00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:37,840
one you know that that reminds me uh

872
00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:39,760
what's that snl remember there was

873
00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:41,600
saturday night live where the guys up

874
00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:43,440
there like schwarzkopf you know and then

875
00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:46,240
like the uh the reporter asks

876
00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:47,919
you know in like a terrible middle

877
00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:49,760
eastern accent you know he's like where

878
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:52,399
is your your troops and can i go there

879
00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:54,720
and count them you know you remember

880
00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:55,520
that

881
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:58,880
uh

882
00:30:03,029 --> 00:30:01,039
i i don't know so i well

883
00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:03,039
total guesses right speculation

884
00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:05,360
completely um

885
00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:07,840
like i said if if the hypothesis

886
00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:10,000
if it is true then what that would mean

887
00:30:12,149 --> 00:30:10,720
is

888
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:12,159
it would depend on the environment we're

889
00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:13,440
in but i don't think we're just floating

890
00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:16,080
out there waiting to get gobbled up by

891
00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:18,159
like some you know other floating amoeba

892
00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:19,520
or something i think it's likely we're

893
00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:21,440
in a larger system

894
00:30:26,149 --> 00:30:23,760
and what these uaps are is

895
00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:26,159
uh basically the same sort of

896
00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:27,679
interacting elements you would have in

897
00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:28,720
your body

898
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:30,640
you know so there's things that bring

899
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:33,840
nutrients there's you know basically uh

900
00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:35,760
t cells keep out foreign invaders you

901
00:30:38,549 --> 00:30:37,760
know basically supporting

902
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:38,559
um

903
00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:40,720
what would be supporting our planet

904
00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:42,559
uh because for some reason it provides

905
00:30:46,710 --> 00:30:44,320
some benefit to the

906
00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:46,720
to the larger organism right just like

907
00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:48,640
things in your body

908
00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:50,240
support each cell because it provides a

909
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:52,799
benefit to the to the larger organism so

910
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:53,679
if

911
00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:57,440
some miracle

912
00:31:03,350 --> 00:31:01,919
uh i would suspect that uaps are like

913
00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:03,360
these higher

914
00:31:09,750 --> 00:31:06,480
higher levels so they should appear

915
00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:09,760
like these elements appear to us

916
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:11,440
would be police right so people in

917
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:13,679
police uniforms

918
00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:15,760
come from the city right and so that is

919
00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:17,600
a higher dimensional

920
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:19,600
level and the way right because those

921
00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:21,120
people don't want to arrest you i mean i

922
00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:23,200
would assume right right they they don't

923
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:24,799
want to get shot at or you know do this

924
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:26,240
dangerous job

925
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:28,960
um but they do right they do

926
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:30,960
so so why do they why well they're

927
00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:32,720
forced by by the overall system that has

928
00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:34,240
created them molded them put them in

929
00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:36,080
that in that role

930
00:31:40,070 --> 00:31:38,159
uh and so they come out what it appears

931
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:40,080
as is the police showing up at your door

932
00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:40,960
right

933
00:31:45,669 --> 00:31:43,200
um but the overall general system is

934
00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:45,679
it's it's creating order throughout the

935
00:31:49,029 --> 00:31:47,440
overall general system right if everyone

936
00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:49,039
was out there breaking the law uh

937
00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:51,200
running all of our traffic rules and and

938
00:31:55,110 --> 00:31:53,120
everything that the overall system would

939
00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:55,120
would start to fall

940
00:31:58,710 --> 00:31:56,960
um so this is just a control mechanism

941
00:32:02,470 --> 00:31:58,720
so the idea is

942
00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:02,480
uh it would be interdimensional beings

943
00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:05,039
that are similar to our level

944
00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:06,880
so that's why you know maybe why it's

945
00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:08,799
all humans or at least not humans but

946
00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:10,000
there are

947
00:32:13,750 --> 00:32:12,320
you know they appear homonoid in all the

948
00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:13,760
all the accounts right which seemed

949
00:32:17,909 --> 00:32:16,000
always seemed to me like too

950
00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:17,919
you know too convenient you know that

951
00:32:21,509 --> 00:32:19,120
and that's another reason i kind of

952
00:32:22,630 --> 00:32:21,519
wrote it off is you see like okay at a

953
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:22,640
spaceship you know we've been hearing

954
00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:24,960
about spaceships for decades uh and then

955
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:26,240
really they're gonna look like that you

956
00:32:30,149 --> 00:32:27,760
know they're gonna really have two eyes

957
00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:30,159
and and you know two arms and two legs

958
00:32:33,269 --> 00:32:31,120
and

959
00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:33,279
uh it just seemed too convenient to me

960
00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:36,000
uh but this would kind of

961
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:38,559
feed into that whereas maybe it is like

962
00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:40,559
a seed world essentially where you know

963
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:42,640
we can grow on our own

964
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:45,120
uh but there are certain basic pathways

965
00:32:47,669 --> 00:32:46,080
you know or maybe there's certain

966
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:47,679
species out there

967
00:32:51,669 --> 00:32:50,080
uh so you're making you're making me

968
00:32:53,909 --> 00:32:51,679
think of all these weird random things

969
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:53,919
now that like imagine the earth was a

970
00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:55,600
living thing in itself and this is just

971
00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:57,360
the earth's immune system attacking us

972
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:59,039
because we're some kind of virus against

973
00:33:01,990 --> 00:33:00,720
it like exactly

974
00:33:03,509 --> 00:33:02,000
yeah it's

975
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:03,519
like i don't know where it came from

976
00:33:08,389 --> 00:33:06,799
right i mean it's a crazy thought but

977
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:08,399
i mean it's not solving a lot of

978
00:33:11,909 --> 00:33:10,480
problems a lot of overheating issues

979
00:33:14,230 --> 00:33:11,919
you know that was lovelock's big thing

980
00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:14,240
he wrote the guy i love that uh and what

981
00:33:17,909 --> 00:33:16,320
was he like 100 he wrote his last

982
00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:17,919
uh book uh

983
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:19,039
i'm sorry i can't remember super

984
00:33:21,669 --> 00:33:20,480
intelligence i think it's what it's

985
00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:21,679
called

986
00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:23,279
uh amazing book but that was his main

987
00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:25,679
argument is that gaia will will continue

988
00:33:30,549 --> 00:33:28,240
the ai we will have new machines here

989
00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:30,559
new entities that we won't recognize he

990
00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:33,679
said they'll look ethereal in nature

991
00:33:37,269 --> 00:33:34,640
um

992
00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:37,279
which sounds kind of kind of familiar

993
00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:40,799
uh and he said that um really the the

994
00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:43,360
they'll keep us around he believes uh

995
00:33:48,389 --> 00:33:46,080
because we will keep the planet from

996
00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:48,399
overheating so basically which kind of

997
00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:50,399
makes sense for the entropy argument

998
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:52,080
because if you look at entropy is always

999
00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:54,320
increasing in a normal system

1000
00:34:00,389 --> 00:33:56,480
uh you can also kind of relate that as i

1001
00:34:03,269 --> 00:34:00,399
don't know as heat maybe heat dispersing

1002
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:03,279
um and so maybe heat dispersing is is is

1003
00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:05,120
the problem and so life is there to kind

1004
00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:06,640
of counteract this

1005
00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:08,800
this heat so that was lovelock's kind of

1006
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:10,960
argument in gaia or his last book after

1007
00:34:14,069 --> 00:34:11,919
gaia

1008
00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:14,079
was that it will control the heat which

1009
00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:16,560
may be against the uh entropy so that

1010
00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:18,159
would also fill into the argument that

1011
00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:19,200
life

1012
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:21,839
is for decreasing entropy

1013
00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:23,200
these could be some good chats on the

1014
00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:25,040
listener call-in so coming up soon as

1015
00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:28,000
well um craig asks the question has

1016
00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:30,079
chris reached out to any current pilots

1017
00:34:34,310 --> 00:34:32,079
either in the air force or pilots you

1018
00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:34,320
worked with at nato and for any stories

1019
00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:36,480
about uap incidents

1020
00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:38,079
not really no

1021
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:39,119
um

1022
00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:41,040
any reason like now you've got the

1023
00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:43,440
interest like i i don't know

1024
00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:45,040
i'm still you know you scared to reach

1025
00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:47,599
out i guess i don't know

1026
00:34:51,669 --> 00:34:49,280
i the buddies i asked kind of on the

1027
00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:51,679
side said no i haven't seen anything um

1028
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:53,119
but

1029
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:54,960
yeah i'll consider it you know that

1030
00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:56,560
would be cool it would be awesome to

1031
00:34:59,109 --> 00:34:57,760
have people out you're just you're

1032
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:59,119
asking a lot you know the only person

1033
00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:01,040
that's come out so far is really ryan

1034
00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:03,200
graves and and i believe someone else on

1035
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:04,640
the east coast

1036
00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:05,760
um but

1037
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:07,920
i don't know i i maybe i don't want to

1038
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:10,079
bother him i'll ask i'll ask it's a good

1039
00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:11,040
idea

1040
00:35:14,790 --> 00:35:12,640
and you know i think you've got that

1041
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:14,800
level of respect it's not me with a ufo

1042
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:16,960
podcast reaching out to to a pilot i

1043
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:18,960
don't know or have any relationship with

1044
00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:20,560
to ask them to appear on here and talk

1045
00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:22,800
about ufos it's someone who else has

1046
00:35:26,550 --> 00:35:24,480
served with them asking to come out and

1047
00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:26,560
have a chat and um i've said one of

1048
00:35:30,790 --> 00:35:28,480
louie elizondo's best interviews was

1049
00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:30,800
with terry wurtz the astronaut

1050
00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:32,960
and terry i don't know if you've seen it

1051
00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:35,359
but terry isn't necessarily really

1052
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:37,200
interested in ufos

1053
00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:38,560
and he's not actually a great

1054
00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:42,079
interviewer he's just naturally curious

1055
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:44,560
and the level of respect that lou has

1056
00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:46,320
for him

1057
00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:48,160
the questions lou asked don't

1058
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:49,839
necessarily warrant the amount of

1059
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:52,240
information lou gives terry and you can

1060
00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:54,160
just see because of the respect lou has

1061
00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:55,040
for him

1062
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:57,119
he talks about a lot of stuff where when

1063
00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:58,560
you look back at it and i suppose from

1064
00:36:01,510 --> 00:35:59,680
an interviewer's point of view i'm

1065
00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:01,520
watching it going

1066
00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:03,440
he didn't ask lou that yet lou is now

1067
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:04,960
talking about an incident where a huge

1068
00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:06,000
island

1069
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:07,680
sized object appeared from underneath

1070
00:36:10,829 --> 00:36:09,920
the ocean and swallowed a missile off of

1071
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:10,839
puerto

1072
00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:13,440
rico like huh so but just due to that

1073
00:36:16,310 --> 00:36:14,960
like i say that i think that military

1074
00:36:18,069 --> 00:36:16,320
thing

1075
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:18,079
go go and watch it honestly and again

1076
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:20,240
people have asked and accent why is

1077
00:36:25,829 --> 00:36:22,960
people struggled it's terry verts v i

1078
00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:25,839
rts okay um has youtube channel the

1079
00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:27,920
interview with luella's ondo is pretty

1080
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:30,160
far down the list just because of the

1081
00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:32,240
nature of that channel ufos aren't

1082
00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:34,400
necessarily a big topic so do scroll

1083
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:36,800
down it it's one of the best interview

1084
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:40,480
as well as on those done

1085
00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:41,680
i remember you mentioned one when you

1086
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:43,280
talked to lou is that the one you you

1087
00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:45,040
mentioned yes i apparently that was the

1088
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:46,320
one yet

1089
00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:48,160
okay cool i thought i wrote that down

1090
00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:50,079
but and daniel was saying

1091
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:51,920
i i was just gonna say terry's super

1092
00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:54,640
insightful you know he's an astronaut he

1093
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:56,880
uh when he was on jorgen he spoke about

1094
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:58,320
kind of how

1095
00:37:02,390 --> 00:36:59,920
ash being an astronaut it feels like

1096
00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:02,400
you're constantly falling and that was a

1097
00:37:05,829 --> 00:37:04,240
quality i hadn't quite considered when i

1098
00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:05,839
thought about you know being up in zero

1099
00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:07,920
g kind of constantly having to stop

1100
00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:09,599
yourself kind of grabbing something

1101
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:11,440
because your brain says you're falling

1102
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:15,520
you know um but yeah he's a very good uh

1103
00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:17,920
human in interviewer i would say yeah

1104
00:37:21,349 --> 00:37:19,839
he's no bias which was great and that

1105
00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:21,359
really comes across in the interview as

1106
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:23,359
well uh which i enjoyed so yeah people

1107
00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:24,720
should check that one out and and

1108
00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:25,839
yourself chris

1109
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:28,000
um chris next question was from agent

1110
00:37:31,990 --> 00:37:30,480
black he said first off chris's videos

1111
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:32,000
in the last few months are required

1112
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:34,320
viewing he has some serious fans who may

1113
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:36,560
not be vocal on social media but his

1114
00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:38,160
work is crucial right now and i can't

1115
00:37:42,150 --> 00:37:39,440
thank him enough

1116
00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:42,160
um and the question goes on how do all

1117
00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:44,320
you former pilots feel when debunkers

1118
00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:46,480
who have little to no experience claim

1119
00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:49,200
you can't identify basic objects given

1120
00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:50,720
your state of the art targeting

1121
00:37:55,589 --> 00:37:52,480
equipment and i suppose we we kind of

1122
00:37:58,150 --> 00:37:55,599
touched on this earlier a little bit

1123
00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:58,160
yeah i i actually haven't talked to them

1124
00:38:01,589 --> 00:37:59,359
i don't know

1125
00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:01,599
i didn't uh i'll i'll ask my buddies

1126
00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:03,599
actually i live out in portugal you know

1127
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:05,119
kind of out in the middle of nowhere

1128
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:06,960
um

1129
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:08,320
yeah do you think do you think they

1130
00:38:13,109 --> 00:38:11,040
would care or is that something

1131
00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:13,119
yeah without it now without a doubt

1132
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:14,560
i don't i mean i don't even need to ask

1133
00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:15,680
them you know

1134
00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:18,000
like i saw it's ridiculous it's just

1135
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:19,760
ridiculous uh

1136
00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:21,839
yeah to save what well and what he says

1137
00:38:25,349 --> 00:38:23,119
you know when he when he shows the go

1138
00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:25,359
fast and he says it's a it's a goose he

1139
00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:27,359
just doesn't realize how ridiculous it

1140
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:29,200
is you know and then i and then i made

1141
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:31,200
that video and i i keep getting hate

1142
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:32,320
comments from it you know because

1143
00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:34,720
thunderf00t made a video aiming at at

1144
00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:35,920
that video

1145
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:38,400
uh but i i leave it up because i i don't

1146
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:40,960
know i think a i need to hate comments

1147
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:42,640
uh you know just to like

1148
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:46,720
slap me awake again uh and then uh but

1149
00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:49,200
but b i think all the information is

1150
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:51,760
is not refuted you know like they still

1151
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:53,280
think it's refuted

1152
00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:55,599
so at the end of the day you know

1153
00:39:00,150 --> 00:38:59,040
i i honestly don't care uh what you know

1154
00:39:01,910 --> 00:39:00,160
thunderfoot

1155
00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:01,920
thinks or what videos he makes at the

1156
00:39:05,109 --> 00:39:02,960
end of the day you know and i really

1157
00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:05,119
learned that from talking to avilab uh

1158
00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:06,880
or mick west you know and that's why i

1159
00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:08,320
don't i don't know what mick west is

1160
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:09,760
doing really because i don't watch his

1161
00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:12,240
videos i'm really just so busy you know

1162
00:39:15,510 --> 00:39:13,599
trying to

1163
00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:15,520
think of stuff and investigate and watch

1164
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:16,880
other videos that i that i care about

1165
00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:18,640
you know it's really almost a waste of

1166
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:19,920
my time

1167
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:22,480
um to engage with him but but i will you

1168
00:39:25,349 --> 00:39:24,079
know if it's required or if he brings up

1169
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:25,359
a good point you know if he does bring

1170
00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:26,640
up a good point

1171
00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:28,960
that can further the discussion or they

1172
00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:30,560
can show me something else it's it's

1173
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:31,760
good motivation

1174
00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:34,320
um and last question from charlie he

1175
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:37,359
says at the recent aiaa conference ryan

1176
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:38,640
graves who you've just mentioned

1177
00:39:44,069 --> 00:39:40,880
presented some recommendations for air

1178
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:44,079
safety with regard to uap activity what

1179
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:47,280
recommendations would you make

1180
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:49,200
yeah that's a good question i i don't

1181
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:51,119
remember what he recommended

1182
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:53,280
uh so

1183
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:54,720
what would you do for safety so

1184
00:39:58,230 --> 00:39:56,400
basically the way

1185
00:39:59,829 --> 00:39:58,240
that's a that's a tough question right

1186
00:40:02,470 --> 00:39:59,839
there there's there's basically three

1187
00:40:04,710 --> 00:40:02,480
things you can do you know so you can

1188
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:04,720
you can affect it the best way is to

1189
00:40:08,829 --> 00:40:07,119
system affect it right you literally

1190
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:08,839
design out the problem

1191
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:11,200
um so

1192
00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:13,200
like so that would work like if there is

1193
00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:14,240
a

1194
00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:30,640
um

1195
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:32,560
you're making it so we physically can't

1196
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:34,720
enter interact with them

1197
00:40:38,309 --> 00:40:36,480
right that would be a kind of a systems

1198
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:38,319
design it doesn't make as good a sense

1199
00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:40,000
the the better argument for system

1200
00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:43,599
design is like um pilots when they go to

1201
00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:45,839
reach the landing gear since this switch

1202
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:47,440
is right under it once in a while they

1203
00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:50,480
hit it and it like blows up the whatever

1204
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:52,240
you know it causes some serious issue

1205
00:40:55,109 --> 00:40:53,760
okay i just made that up i'm sure it

1206
00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:55,119
happened in the past right this always

1207
00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:56,480
happens they build something to find out

1208
00:40:59,670 --> 00:40:57,440
later

1209
00:41:01,829 --> 00:40:59,680
um so what the best way to do is to

1210
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:01,839
literally design out that

1211
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:03,599
switch right you you take it out you put

1212
00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:05,119
it somewhere else you you remove it

1213
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:07,200
right so it physically can't happen but

1214
00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:08,960
if that can't happen then you then you

1215
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:10,800
put like a little cage over it you know

1216
00:41:13,589 --> 00:41:12,240
you're doing it like a

1217
00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:13,599
duct tape fix

1218
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:15,440
uh and then the weakest right until that

1219
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:17,440
happens is you just you procedurally do

1220
00:41:21,670 --> 00:41:20,000
it so you just tell everybody hey you

1221
00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:21,680
know don't hit this switch although

1222
00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:22,560
you're never going to think of this

1223
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:24,240
while it's going on but you you might

1224
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:25,760
get automatically ejected or something

1225
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,800
you know

1226
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:28,480
so procedurally so i think all they've

1227
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:30,640
been able to do so far is just do

1228
00:41:34,390 --> 00:41:32,640
procedurally they say hey

1229
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:34,400
there's no dems out there

1230
00:41:37,589 --> 00:41:35,440
and

1231
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:37,599
that's it because i you know you have to

1232
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:39,040
in order to avoid them you'd have to

1233
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:40,960
know exactly where they are um and it

1234
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:42,160
sounds like they don't know where they

1235
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:43,200
are

1236
00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:45,680
um so yeah i'd have to look more so what

1237
00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:47,599
i would do is safety would be go and

1238
00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:49,520
investigate the 11

1239
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:51,359
close passes they had look at those near

1240
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:52,720
misses and really that's your that's

1241
00:41:55,829 --> 00:41:54,560
your safety point

1242
00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:55,839
is that when they thought they were in

1243
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:57,359
danger or thought thought something

1244
00:41:59,990 --> 00:41:59,200
could have happened and then you figure

1245
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:00,000
out

1246
00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:04,240
the system

1247
00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:06,400
awesome cool um so let's finish off on

1248
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:08,000
the quick fire round chris uh let's say

1249
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:08,960
you've been you've been great with your

1250
00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:10,240
time and it's been a lot of fun talking

1251
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:12,480
to you as well um the first one is do

1252
00:42:16,950 --> 00:42:15,760
you have any thoughts on the bob lazar

1253
00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:16,960
bob lazar

1254
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:19,040
yeah you know i i initially thought it

1255
00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:21,040
was amazing his his uh

1256
00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:22,800
all of his descriptions like the gravity

1257
00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:25,040
waves how they work with microwaves used

1258
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,319
through wave guides uh the e115 um all

1259
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:30,480
the the actual chemistry physics he

1260
00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:31,680
described

1261
00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:34,079
um was amazing you know and then even

1262
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:35,760
like the

1263
00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:37,599
uh all the secret stuff that maybe uh

1264
00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:39,359
you know i've i've been through those

1265
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:40,960
programs not that not obviously not

1266
00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:43,280
those programs um but you know i've been

1267
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:45,119
reading on other things and and so he's

1268
00:42:48,790 --> 00:42:46,800
obviously done that before you know he's

1269
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:48,800
obviously knows the process

1270
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:52,160
or you know he seems to know it um

1271
00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:53,200
so it

1272
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:54,800
it all felt like

1273
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:56,480
real to me you know i you know of course

1274
00:42:59,910 --> 00:42:58,400
it was brilliant again it's been a three

1275
00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:59,920
month like spin up for me you know so

1276
00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:01,520
it's been like constant

1277
00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:03,440
yeah but then i really you know and

1278
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:05,440
kevin knew he mentions again you know

1279
00:43:10,390 --> 00:43:08,079
theories of everything kurt asked him

1280
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:10,400
why he didn't believe bob lazar and so

1281
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:12,000
balazar basically made the argument that

1282
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:13,680
there's not enough information in there

1283
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:15,359
you know it's basically

1284
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:17,359
um not quite enough information to prove

1285
00:43:21,109 --> 00:43:18,720
that it's valid so he thinks it's not

1286
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:21,119
valid and uh so it seems like in the uap

1287
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:23,440
community they they they disregard it

1288
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,720
but they don't think it's they don't

1289
00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:26,400
think it's real so

1290
00:43:31,829 --> 00:43:28,720
i'd say it's split

1291
00:43:33,349 --> 00:43:31,839
okay yeah i i think 50 50.

1292
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:33,359
um as to those who believe it and those

1293
00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:36,480
who don't dan what about you 50 to 115

1294
00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:37,760
i'd say

1295
00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:40,560
115 lol

1296
00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:42,960
next one is what's your favorite uap

1297
00:43:49,349 --> 00:43:48,069
favorite uap video oh man i don't know

1298
00:43:53,510 --> 00:43:49,359
uh

1299
00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:53,520
do you know what i presume that anyway

1300
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:55,520
just without being in the manure

1301
00:43:59,829 --> 00:43:57,760
unless you've seen something aguadilla

1302
00:44:01,750 --> 00:43:59,839
and you know

1303
00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:01,760
anything you've looked at

1304
00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:03,839
i i mean the one that i just the most

1305
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:05,839
memorable for me is the gimbal

1306
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:07,520
you know that was just unbelievable i

1307
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:09,599
can't believe it you know it looked

1308
00:44:13,030 --> 00:44:11,280
because i couldn't find exactly what it

1309
00:44:14,470 --> 00:44:13,040
looked like online you know it took me

1310
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:14,480
like literally 20 minutes i just kept

1311
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:16,800
looking and all i found was this picture

1312
00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:18,640
from 1952

1313
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:21,599
uh of of what i saw as the gimbal you

1314
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:22,880
know because it looks

1315
00:44:25,670 --> 00:44:24,000
you know i've looked at it for so many

1316
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:25,680
hundreds of hours it looks much clearer

1317
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:27,119
to me whether it's not or whether it's

1318
00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:29,920
fake or anything uh it looks very clear

1319
00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:32,160
and and when when i went to find the

1320
00:44:36,069 --> 00:44:34,800
thing that i thought i was looking at it

1321
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:36,079
uh the only picture i could find was

1322
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:37,920
from 1952 you know

1323
00:44:40,870 --> 00:44:39,359
which kind of blew my mind away like the

1324
00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:40,880
memes have changed you know where like

1325
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:42,800
the memes didn't put the saucer there

1326
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:45,119
you know that the classic saucer which

1327
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:46,960
is what the gimbal was

1328
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:49,040
so that one just just blew me away i

1329
00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:50,880
mean the tic tacs got to be

1330
00:44:54,309 --> 00:44:52,720
no one expected the tic tac you know i

1331
00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:54,319
mean what you could make up a lot of

1332
00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:55,839
things but really a tic tac thing that

1333
00:45:00,069 --> 00:44:58,560
flips around and like tumbles around

1334
00:45:01,750 --> 00:45:00,079
that's just crazy

1335
00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:01,760
so yeah that's the one that really

1336
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:03,599
changed my mind that nimitz you know

1337
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:05,119
that that opened it up that this was

1338
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:06,560
even possible

1339
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:08,240
was that nimitz encountered the way he

1340
00:45:11,109 --> 00:45:09,520
he can relate it and then all the

1341
00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:11,119
supporting stuff kevin did you know you

1342
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:12,800
go and watch kevin day did an amazing

1343
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:14,079
thing to make that happen everybody

1344
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:15,520
calls it like the fravor incident you

1345
00:45:18,069 --> 00:45:16,400
know

1346
00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:18,079
but kevin day man he's the one vectoring

1347
00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:19,119
him over

1348
00:45:22,870 --> 00:45:20,400
so it should be called like the kevin

1349
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:22,880
day incident you know but anyway i'm

1350
00:45:26,069 --> 00:45:24,240
sure kevin would appreciate that he's a

1351
00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:26,079
nice guy yeah i want him back to i don't

1352
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:27,119
know i've been trying to meet up with

1353
00:45:31,030 --> 00:45:28,960
gary voorhees you know i kept saying i

1354
00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:31,040
do a nimitz dive and then but then i see

1355
00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:32,560
there's so many interviews so i've been

1356
00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:33,520
like trying to watch all these

1357
00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:35,040
interviews all these interviews i don't

1358
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:37,200
want to ask them the same questions

1359
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:38,720
but hopefully i get them on i want to

1360
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:41,920
get uh get them on on one maybe one live

1361
00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:43,520
stream

1362
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:45,599
again gary's a good guy i was texting

1363
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:47,200
him last night as well so yeah i got him

1364
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:48,880
a gary um

1365
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:52,000
what's your thoughts on skinwalker ranch

1366
00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:53,440
i i honestly just learned about

1367
00:45:57,109 --> 00:45:55,760
skinwalker ranch like two days ago

1368
00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:57,119
you know i guess

1369
00:46:00,390 --> 00:45:58,640
it must be amazing to you guys like how

1370
00:46:01,510 --> 00:46:00,400
do you know how do i not know all this

1371
00:46:02,710 --> 00:46:01,520
stuff like

1372
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:02,720
like

1373
00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:04,000
i'd heard of it i'd heard of people

1374
00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:05,920
saying skin walking around i'm like what

1375
00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:07,839
is this like a you know like a like a

1376
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:10,880
brothel somewhere on las vegas you know

1377
00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:12,480
i have no idea like

1378
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:14,000
i literally thought is it a brothel you

1379
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:16,240
know chris but let me let me tell you

1380
00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:18,480
like i i like you have a fresh

1381
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:20,240
perspective on it though i i mean

1382
00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:21,520
extremely fresh you've literally just

1383
00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:24,079
opened the packet like but we speak to

1384
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:25,920
people who are experts or who have a

1385
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:28,560
bias or who have been involved in it i

1386
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:30,000
mean we've spoken to the owner we've

1387
00:46:33,910 --> 00:46:32,079
spoken to brandon we've spoken to thomas

1388
00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:33,920
winterton and and bryant arnold who's

1389
00:46:38,069 --> 00:46:36,160
security on on the ranch so they've all

1390
00:46:39,910 --> 00:46:38,079
got these really unique perspectives but

1391
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:39,920
to speak to someone who is just dipping

1392
00:46:43,829 --> 00:46:41,920
their toe in the water of it it'll be

1393
00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:43,839
interesting to hear what your thoughts

1394
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:45,359
yeah right now from the little you've

1395
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:46,640
heard but then you know what in the

1396
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:49,200
future just to see as it develops like

1397
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:50,720
do you still think there is something

1398
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:53,440
going on multiple things going on or is

1399
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:55,200
it a bit of a damp squib but what what's

1400
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:57,520
your natural thoughts

1401
00:47:02,309 --> 00:46:58,800
i thought it was i watched travis

1402
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:02,319
taylor's uh interview um

1403
00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:04,560
and it was a i was surprised by some of

1404
00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:06,000
the comments you know interesting was

1405
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:07,040
the gamma

1406
00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:08,400
i was surprised by he had gamma

1407
00:47:13,510 --> 00:47:11,359
radiation burns um you know gamma comes

1408
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:13,520
from this it's the smallest wavelength

1409
00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:15,359
actually you know so it's just so

1410
00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:16,880
interesting we're looking at i don't

1411
00:47:20,230 --> 00:47:18,400
know maybe the largest wavelength

1412
00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:20,240
creates the smallest

1413
00:47:23,750 --> 00:47:22,079
or this we have the largest wavelength

1414
00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:23,760
and the smallest wavelength somehow or

1415
00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:25,760
are there you know or

1416
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:27,520
you know if you have less than 20 hertz

1417
00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:28,960
infrasound

1418
00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:31,280
um and then somehow you also have gamma

1419
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:33,200
radiation at the same place

1420
00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:34,480
um

1421
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:35,839
yeah that was very interesting to me i

1422
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:37,040
thought that was interesting and then

1423
00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:39,119
you hear about uh lou elizondo saying

1424
00:47:42,390 --> 00:47:40,960
that you know he's

1425
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:42,400
everything he's heard of everything at

1426
00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:46,079
the skinwalker ranch and then kevin knew

1427
00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:47,440
in the interview i just watched last

1428
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:49,280
night saying he can't explain half the

1429
00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:50,960
things

1430
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:54,160
so yeah sounds amazing you know um

1431
00:47:57,030 --> 00:47:55,920
there's a few good things

1432
00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:57,040
there's a few there's a few good

1433
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:59,119
documentaries on it um

1434
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:01,119
jeremy carbell's documentary is good and

1435
00:48:04,390 --> 00:48:02,640
covers a lot of ground and there's a few

1436
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:04,400
more i think amazon prime's got one on

1437
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:05,520
there as well

1438
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,920
um so yeah there's plenty of content and

1439
00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:09,839
of course the the history channel show

1440
00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:12,000
that we've talked about a few times like

1441
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:15,440
hey there are times where you're

1442
00:48:20,069 --> 00:48:17,680
you're filming a dramatization at times

1443
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:20,079
of an ongoing scientific experiment so

1444
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:22,079
what you know there's only so much

1445
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:24,240
digging a hole can be spread out over 45

1446
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:26,400
minutes of an episode yeah so maybe

1447
00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:28,160
start with the documentaries and then if

1448
00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:29,680
you're really

1449
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:31,119
i was going to say digging it but that's

1450
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:33,839
a pun um if you're really enjoying that

1451
00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:35,760
the concept and the show and the history

1452
00:48:39,430 --> 00:48:37,839
and the lore then going to the show and

1453
00:48:41,109 --> 00:48:39,440
start looking at that and but yeah

1454
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:41,119
documentaries are the documentary's the

1455
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:42,480
best yeah the skid walker ranch

1456
00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:44,800
documentary yeah there's two there's two

1457
00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:47,839
good ones to watch oh the uh something

1458
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:48,960
you touched on earlier when we were

1459
00:48:52,950 --> 00:48:50,400
talking about censors actually reminded

1460
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:52,960
me of something from skinwalker um in in

1461
00:48:56,230 --> 00:48:54,079
maybe this will wait your appetite

1462
00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:56,240
enough to jump into the show but at one

1463
00:48:59,589 --> 00:48:58,160
point you they say that you're not meant

1464
00:49:02,390 --> 00:48:59,599
to dig on the ranch and the bad things

1465
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:02,400
happen when you dig so naturally they

1466
00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:06,079
start digging um and when they do that

1467
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:08,079
there are a few people kind of far from

1468
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:10,079
the dig site have compasses and the

1469
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:11,920
compasses all start to point towards the

1470
00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:14,079
dig site

1471
00:49:17,510 --> 00:49:15,920
right and yeah you kind of touched on

1472
00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:17,520
that earlier like those were thrown in

1473
00:49:20,950 --> 00:49:19,599
oh man that's so awesome yeah

1474
00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:20,960
that's the simplest thing i could think

1475
00:49:25,430 --> 00:49:23,599
of simplest it's gotta be

1476
00:49:26,950 --> 00:49:25,440
so that's what dan's good for his memory

1477
00:49:29,349 --> 00:49:26,960
on this stuff because i don't know

1478
00:49:32,549 --> 00:49:29,359
anything like that and uh do you prefer

1479
00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:32,559
the term ufo or uap

1480
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:34,400
uh i'm used to changing three letter

1481
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:35,760
acronyms so

1482
00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:37,200
uap sounds

1483
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:38,720
easier to say for me i guess sounds

1484
00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:40,640
cooler it's like newer

1485
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,800
we're all you know you gotta rebrand

1486
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:44,640
they do it every every like 10 years we

1487
00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:46,240
get new uniforms in the military it's

1488
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:48,640
just that's terrible

1489
00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:50,240
and the last one and again this will

1490
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:51,680
interest me because you're so new to

1491
00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:55,440
things what does disclosure mean to you

1492
00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:57,440
disclosure i guess that would just be

1493
00:50:03,030 --> 00:49:59,920
the government fully admitting

1494
00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:03,040
that it has uh extraterrestrial content

1495
00:50:07,349 --> 00:50:05,520
or you know contact there we go

1496
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:07,359
awesome listen chris it's been great

1497
00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:09,119
speaking with you before you go do you

1498
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:10,559
mind just telling people how they can

1499
00:50:16,309 --> 00:50:13,280
follow you and also find your work uh

1500
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:16,319
yeah the best is chris lato at youtube

1501
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:19,440
so just uh l-e-h-t-o spelled the finish

1502
00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:22,480
way uh i also have a patreon that i've

1503
00:50:26,549 --> 00:50:24,400
just spinning up i'm really enjoying it

1504
00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:26,559
figuring out how to use it still but

1505
00:50:29,349 --> 00:50:27,920
yeah those are the two ways so i try and

1506
00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:29,359
keep it transparent

1507
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:32,480
is just just ads ad revenue i don't want

1508
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:34,480
to do any supporters or any of that

1509
00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:36,960
uh marketing stuff you know and then

1510
00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:39,359
from patreon so uh that's the only way

1511
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:40,640
i'm gonna be funded i think in the

1512
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:42,000
future

1513
00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:43,920
awesome and i'll have all those links in

1514
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:46,319
the show description

1515
00:50:50,309 --> 00:50:48,400
yeah and nft sales yeah and if you're

1516
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:50,319
listening brandon fuego that one nft

1517
00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:52,160
sale could make all the difference for

1518
00:50:55,670 --> 00:50:54,160
for uh chris's venture going put it in

1519
00:50:57,670 --> 00:50:55,680
space i'll put it in space like right

1520
00:50:59,349 --> 00:50:57,680
out in front dude 3d avatar i think it'd

1521
00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:59,359
be awesome

1522
00:51:02,390 --> 00:51:00,880
but listen watch the skin walker stuff

1523
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:02,400
and then get in touch with brandon um i

1524
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:03,760
don't know what chris actually i'll i'll

1525
00:51:07,510 --> 00:51:05,760
send you brandon's email uh you can get

1526
00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:07,520
in touch with them um but chris look

1527
00:51:10,069 --> 00:51:08,640
forward to speaking to you again in the

1528
00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:10,079
future as well and dan thanks for

1529
00:51:14,710 --> 00:51:12,640
joining us thank you and thank you chris

1530
00:51:16,069 --> 00:51:14,720
excellent guys now great to meet you um

1531
00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:16,079
yeah anytime

1532
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:18,240
that is all for this week's show thank

1533
00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:20,160
you very much for listening please

1534
00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:22,240
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1535
00:51:27,190 --> 00:51:24,880
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1537
00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:29,119
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1540
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1542
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1544
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:46,720
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1545
00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:48,640
folks as always keep looking up you

1546
00:52:12,390 --> 00:51:51,440
never know what you might see

1547
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:18,480
i don't think he expected me

1548
00:52:18,490 --> 00:52:30,470
[Music]

1549
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:52,710
upstairs

1550
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:54,069
they thought this was noise they thought

1551
00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:06,790
because it doesn't dream scare me

1552
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:09,030
[Music]

1553
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:57,030
is

1554
00:54:05,700 --> 00:53:58,870
it wasn't a tic tac and not quite a

1555
00:54:05,710 --> 00:54:19,510
[Music]

1556
00:54:45,750 --> 00:54:21,680
it's very different